Grade
25
Length
0m
5
Quality
First ascent
Tony Burnell, 1998
Located on
- P1
- 25
- 5
Start as for Rage but stay right of the the 1st bolt and continue straight up on small holds, joining The Active Ingredient at around 11m. Retrobolted.
Comments
UUID
fd8314f0-285f-4719-9e35-fb8d4da8b4b0
Hi "climber53". I'm not asking you to rename the route if that's actually the correct name, I'm just pointing out that there appear to be two distinct routes, quite close together on the same wall, both apparently named "Ground Effect". I assumed one of them is mis-named, I didn't know which, do you? If so, seize the chance to be constructive, instead of bravely calling other people cowards while hiding behind an alias.
In reply to Hi "climber53". I'm not by petemoore
Don't have to call you a coward Pete, it was obvious who I was as the first ascensionist, you weren't pointing anything out you suggested changing an existing route name, as a so called mate you could have just called me but you had to jump on a soap box
In reply to Don't have to call you a by climber53
Hi Tony, I didn't know who 'climber53' was (yes, I probably should have guessed sooner, but the tone of the message just didn't seem like the Tony I know). About a year ago, when another route called "Ground Effect" (the arete next to Carbon Neutral) appeared in the new edition of Rock Deluxe and was then added to ClimbNZ, I posted a comment that there was already a climb called Ground Effect on the same wall, but nobody followed up. When you included a route called "Ground Effect" (graded 26) in the initial list of routes that you posted for the PH300, I assumed (incorrectly, it turns out) that it was the new route that was called Ground Effect, and that the other one was therefore incorrectly named, so I posted another comment to that effect. Sorry if it looked like I was trying to rename one of your routes, that was never my intention. Since both of them are your routes, can you please tell us the correct name of the new route?
I'll re-name the last route
T
If the real "Ground Effect" is actually the route to the right of Carbon Neutral, maybe this one needs to be renamed "Active Ingredient Direct Start"?